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	<title>Comments on: D&amp;C Lesson #3: The First Vision</title>
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		<title>By: mice152</title>
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		<description>Excellent points.  I have wondered again and again about the Father showing up in actual presence when, to the best of my knowledge, He&#039;d never done that before; He was just the deep voice coming from Heaven.  Perhaps this was in direct reaction to the prevailing Trinity theory?

But I agree on the love point very strongly.  It&#039;s funny to me that the older I get, the more I study, the more God is just about love and all this other stuff is peripheral or things we do to ourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent points.  I have wondered again and again about the Father showing up in actual presence when, to the best of my knowledge, He&#8217;d never done that before; He was just the deep voice coming from Heaven.  Perhaps this was in direct reaction to the prevailing Trinity theory?</p>
<p>But I agree on the love point very strongly.  It&#8217;s funny to me that the older I get, the more I study, the more God is just about love and all this other stuff is peripheral or things we do to ourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: grammakelly</title>
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		<description>I love your insights mice152!  I took your challenge and have been thinking about the truths I&#039;ve learned from the 1st Vision.  A couple of things come to mind.  

Fisrt-what an incredible affirmation of love was shown by the Father and the Son on that day.  Let me try to explain why I feel that.  Before this world began, we all voted on the Plan of Salvation, knowing that in our mortal experience we would sin greater than our ability to atone.  The Savior would step in and provide that atonement for us by sacrificing his own life.  This would give us all the ability to be resurrected.  But the plan was not only that we would be resurrected, but that a way would be provided for us to return to the presence of the Father-Celestial Kingdom-if we lived righteously.  The only way to get to the Celestial Kingdom is by making and keeping priesthood covenants ie;baptism, confirmation and the gift of the Holy Ghost, priesthood ordination, endowment, and sealing.  At the time of the vision, no one held the keys to authorize any of those ordinances.  This, to me, is where the incredible show of love comes in.  It was time to restore those keys to the earth, to alow us to become strengthened by making and keeping those ordinances.  This would allow us to stand against the power of the adversay in the last days.  The Savior was probably more than capable of doing that by himself. He had for ages spoken in behalf of the Father, revealing himself to some, speaking to others--they of course being of the same mind and purpose.  However, this teaching was so incredibly important to the Father, that He, himself, chose to be there in person to support/magnify the message that the Savior had come to deliver. Heavenly Father knew the magnitude of this message, and how it would impact all of mankind, so He came in person-something He has not felt to do often-to begin the restoration of the fullness of the gospel of Jesus Christ.  The two of them stood together, in person, as One! He wants us back with him!  He loves us beyond our wildest imaginations!  He is there for us and He will see that we will be given all the tools necessary to accomplish our earthly mission.

Second-the importance of standing up for what we know to be true and right.  Whenever we are given our own personal revelations, it is important to be true to them.  Not all revelation should be shared publically.  Some are most personal and sacred and should be kept as such.  But the one thing common to all revelation is the strengthening of our testimony.  Though not a part of the vision, one of my &lt;em&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;em&gt;favorite parts of the story is in verse 25:&lt;/em&gt; &quot;...I have actually seen a vision; and who am I that I can withstand God, or why does the world think to make me deny what I have actually seen?  For I had seen a vision; I knew it, and I knew that God knew it, and I could not deny it, neither dard I do it; at least I knew that by so doing I would offend God, and come under comdemnation.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;  Sometimes offending man seems more important than offending God.  How blessed we are when we are true to the God that directs us and answers our prayer no matter how big of small.  What a blessing it is to share our testimony not only in word but also in deed. It is our right and our responsibilty to stand for truth and righteousness no matter the consequences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love your insights mice152!  I took your challenge and have been thinking about the truths I&#8217;ve learned from the 1st Vision.  A couple of things come to mind.  </p>
<p>Fisrt-what an incredible affirmation of love was shown by the Father and the Son on that day.  Let me try to explain why I feel that.  Before this world began, we all voted on the Plan of Salvation, knowing that in our mortal experience we would sin greater than our ability to atone.  The Savior would step in and provide that atonement for us by sacrificing his own life.  This would give us all the ability to be resurrected.  But the plan was not only that we would be resurrected, but that a way would be provided for us to return to the presence of the Father-Celestial Kingdom-if we lived righteously.  The only way to get to the Celestial Kingdom is by making and keeping priesthood covenants ie;baptism, confirmation and the gift of the Holy Ghost, priesthood ordination, endowment, and sealing.  At the time of the vision, no one held the keys to authorize any of those ordinances.  This, to me, is where the incredible show of love comes in.  It was time to restore those keys to the earth, to alow us to become strengthened by making and keeping those ordinances.  This would allow us to stand against the power of the adversay in the last days.  The Savior was probably more than capable of doing that by himself. He had for ages spoken in behalf of the Father, revealing himself to some, speaking to others&#8211;they of course being of the same mind and purpose.  However, this teaching was so incredibly important to the Father, that He, himself, chose to be there in person to support/magnify the message that the Savior had come to deliver. Heavenly Father knew the magnitude of this message, and how it would impact all of mankind, so He came in person-something He has not felt to do often-to begin the restoration of the fullness of the gospel of Jesus Christ.  The two of them stood together, in person, as One! He wants us back with him!  He loves us beyond our wildest imaginations!  He is there for us and He will see that we will be given all the tools necessary to accomplish our earthly mission.</p>
<p>Second-the importance of standing up for what we know to be true and right.  Whenever we are given our own personal revelations, it is important to be true to them.  Not all revelation should be shared publically.  Some are most personal and sacred and should be kept as such.  But the one thing common to all revelation is the strengthening of our testimony.  Though not a part of the vision, one of my <em></em><em></em><em></em><em></em><em></em><em>favorite parts of the story is in verse 25:</em> &#8220;&#8230;I have actually seen a vision; and who am I that I can withstand God, or why does the world think to make me deny what I have actually seen?  For I had seen a vision; I knew it, and I knew that God knew it, and I could not deny it, neither dard I do it; at least I knew that by so doing I would offend God, and come under comdemnation.&#8221;  Sometimes offending man seems more important than offending God.  How blessed we are when we are true to the God that directs us and answers our prayer no matter how big of small.  What a blessing it is to share our testimony not only in word but also in deed. It is our right and our responsibilty to stand for truth and righteousness no matter the consequences.</p>
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